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Ludovic Leforestier's avatar

Thanks for the nod Richard, it means a lot coming from you.

Your point about exhaustivity is really interesting –and supported by data.

IIAR> members asked this question precisely when Forrester removed the lower band in its Wave evaluative methodology: this also removes their relevance in tracking emerging players.

See > https://analystrelations.org/2024/07/02/iiar-analyst-firm-webinar-forrester-wave-update-16th-july/

Good analysts maintain manual spreadsheets and notes about vendors in the categories they track –but this is time-consuming and out-of-process.

To give Gartner some credit, they came up with the Emerging Magic Quadrant which tracks more vendors and with a faster refresh cycle -but it's very very far from being perfect. They have the resources to correct it (and hopefully change the confusing product name) –will they?

John Kwarsick's avatar

The long tail thesis is right. But there's a parallel problem no one's covering.

You're asking: how do we track all the vendors? The missing question: how do we diagnose whether organizations can actually adopt what they buy?

Gartner covers 144 vendors. You're covering 3,966. But even with perfect vendor visibility, most AI security initiatives will stall. Not because the tools are wrong, but because the human layer was never diagnosed.

Stack analysis tells you what you have.

NIST mapping tells you where the gaps are.

Neither tells you why the SOC team quietly works around the new tool, or why the CISO's initiative dies in middle management.

The long tail of vendors is a data problem.

The long tail of adoption failures is a human problem.

Both need solving.

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